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Monday, October 03, 2005

I Don't Like Mondays, Part 2

INVESTIGATORS HAVE FOUND SUSPICIOUS DEVICES INCLUDING GUN POWDER IN THE OKLAHOMA STUDENTS APARTMENT

A cache of explosive materials was discovered Sunday night in the apartment of a Wasson High graduate who apparently blew himself up Saturday outside a football stadium packed with 84,000 people at the University of Oklahoma.Colorado Springs Gazette Monday, October 3, 2005

Around 7:30 p.m. Saturday night, there was a loud explosion outside Oklahoma Memorial Stadium that was heard as far as five miles away.

Windows at George Lynn Cross Hall, were blown out, which are in the process of being repaired. And, windows to a bus that was parked nearby were also blown out. Norman Fire Department was called to spray debris and blood off the bus and the surrounding area.

More information is emerging on the Sooner Bomber.

Joel Hinrichs father, Joel Hinrichs Jr. said on Sunday that his son had trouble making friends and that he had battled depression.

Hinrichs' father, Joel Henry Hinrichs Jr., said he is clinging to the idea that his son's death was unintentional. He said he communicated with his son and nothing seemed out of the ordinary. He said his son was a very intelligent and private individual who somehow lost the confidence that his life would be a good one.

He told The Denver Post that his son had trouble making friends with peers. He said his son took a year off college to try to cope with depression. Hinrichs' sister, Berkeley Hinrichs, told the newspaper that her brother said he wasn't sure what he wanted to do with his life. She also said it's possible her brother was doing an experiment and did not mean to kill himself.

The university president says it was a lone act of suicide:
Joel Henry Hinrichs III, a 21-year-old junior, was killed when an explosive attached to his body detonated while he sat on a bench across the street from the OU stadium in Norman, Okla., in the second quarter of the Oklahoma-Kansas State game. The blast was heard throughout the stadium and up to four miles away. No one was allowed out of the stadium for 30 minutes after the explosion, but the game continued. Sunday afternoon, OU President David Boren said “we are apparently dealing with an individual suicide” and said there was no evidence that Hinrichs planned to harm anyone else. But authorities found numerous explosive materials when they searched his apartment, The Oklahoman newspaper reported in today’s editions.

One blog writer added, "But the information by President Boren doesn't add up...

"No "normal" person commits suicide by blowing himself up in public with a backpack full of explosives.
Suicide bombers with suicide belts do not generally do so in isolation! How does one learn how to make a suicide bomb belt? A person committing suicide does not usually have a cache of explosives stored up just in case. Where does one look to find instructions for making a suicide belt? Are there any other internet sites besides militant Islamic sites where one can learn how to do this?"

“In hindsight, the handwriting was on the wall,” Joel Hinrichs Jr. said of his youngest son. “He was unhappy in his major (mechanical engineering). He had the energy of a young man, but he didn’t have the optimism. “He lived his life very privately. He was very bright. He was fascinated with technical information and subjects, but evidently did not pick up much confidence on his passage through childhood. He ran out of confidence last night.” Tom Hinrichs, 24, said his brother was lonely and frustrated. “I was surprised a bit by the details, but on the whole I was not surprised,” he said. “He’d always been fascinated with artillery. “He had real demons that were eating at him, and I told him some things I thought he needed to do, but he had such intense pride it didn’t register to him.” Joel III, who went by “Joe,” was the youngest of three boys and two girls. His father’s job as a software engineer brought the family to Colorado Springs from Illinois, about six years ago. His parents recently separated, and his mother, Elaine, also lives here.

FBI Special Agent Gary Johnson said there is an ongoing and intensive investigation related to Saturday night’s events and would not comment about the events concerning Hinrichs’ apartment complex.

Joel Hinrich's father is clinging to the idea that the suicide was an accident.

6 Comments:

  • At Mon Oct 03, 08:29:00 PM PDT, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    OK. Let's analyze this.

    First, we have a Triangle brother (?) who commits suicide and does so while allegedly trying to blow up the Sooner's stadium.

    I can remember a few drunken revels where some unnamed Armour Brothers emptied ROTC shell cases, filled a pipe with the explosives, drilled a hole in the pipe after the fact and set it off in DeLaSalle Field. Had we blown up DeLaSalle, would we have been classified as terrorists? I know that there was one hell of a hole in the field and I don't think that even the house could have withstood that blast.

    Second, as a geek, the guy was probably trying to make a statement. Something along the lines of the fact that we spend entirely too much money and time on sports and not enough on the triple intergral theorem for determining deflections.

    Finally, since he was a Triangle, maybe he couldn't get a date. Always a good possibility. And, since he was an engineer, he actually knew how to make a bomb. The ditz on the new cast didn't even note this fact. And all that shit about "what was his gender and where was he from?". Who are they kidding. Al Qaeda is not going to a Sooner's game anytime soon (no pun intended). Those people don't even know where Oklahoma is - even if it does look a lot like Afghanistan.

    Let's face it. When they blew up the Federal Center in Oklahoma City, they did not have to import the terrorists. They were home grown nuts, right from the good old US of A.

     
  • At Mon Oct 03, 08:31:00 PM PDT, Blogger John Bernat said…

    What was that you said about triple integrals? It sounded mighty scary to me…

    Of course, you’re right. The most likely theory, knowing our Triangle brothers, is that it was some sort of stupid prank that went totally wrong.

    If we had blown up DeLaSalle, we would have been prosecuted and arrested, and would have deserved it. But not seen as terrorists.

    EXCEPT…remember that some guys started there a year or two before you. In 1969 and 1970 there WERE bombings on college campuses, and riots and demonstrations and people getting shot and gassed and killed.

    All our aberrancies are a function of their larger context. We can’t get away from that fact. In the 1970s I could have decorated NY subway cars with graffiti and been called an artist. Today, it’s just way different.

    A function of getting older is that we see these long, long cycles of human history…another function is being ignored by younger people, just like we did back then.

     
  • At Tue Oct 04, 02:39:00 PM PDT, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Weird thing about suicide bombers; the explosive around the middle squeezes them apart, so the head and feet are usually (somewhat) intact. Many of the allahbots hold their hands in the air so the fingerprints are intact. Wouldn't want Allah to hand those 72 virgins over to the wrong guy. So far this guy in Oklahoma seems to have gone crazy without the help of Islam, but you never know.....

     
  • At Tue Oct 04, 05:32:00 PM PDT, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    More info:

    http://www.oudaily.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/03/4341fe8b294e8

    http://tapscottscopydesk.blogspot.com/2005/10/why-arent-we-being-told-more-facts.html

    http://www.channeloklahoma.com/news/5057494/detail.html

    http://michellemalkin.com/archives/003668.htm

    This is looking stranger all the time.

     
  • At Tue Oct 04, 06:09:00 PM PDT, Blogger John Bernat said…

    It’s possible that playing an Islamic suicide bomber can be a fashion statement for a suicidal personality.

    And I’m really grateful that, for whatever reason, he didn’t kill innocent people.

    But clarify something for me: if we find out that, despite Hinrichs making no declaration to Allah or any other claim of responsibility (and thus making you wonder about his actual motives and/or competency), he was a dyed-in-the-wool Islamic extremist…

    What should we do about it?

    It seems we want to find Islamic extremists under our beds. If Hinrichs was an Islamic terrorist, then what? Should we start putting guys with beards into camps? Or just bugging their rooms?

    Hinrichs was, beyond much dispute, a messed up young man who decided to destroy himself. Since my opinion is about as much based on fact as anybody's, here’s my belief:

    1. He was depressed and suicidal.

    2. He started checking out lurid ways to kill himself. Explosions are, well, explosive – whether or not you get the virgins later.

    3. I think the Islamic connection was not much more than glam for his suicide.

    4. Remember what Frank Zappa said: “Well, go on, and get it over with now – find you a bridge and take a jump. But you better get it right the first time, cause nothing’s worse that a suicide chump.”

    And here’s my money shot. Hinrichs chickened out. He thought about how cool it would be to not only end his own misery but take out all the assholes that called him a wanker. He’s walking to the stadium. Not praying much to Allah.

    THEN HE SITS DOWN ON A BENCH! Why?? Because he had to – wait for it, now – THINK.

    He's on the bench. The idea of killing hundreds of innocent people sinks in, and that made him even more miserable, and then he heard Frank a-callin’ him. Boom.

    So it’s a messed up and miserable young man who wanted to make a big statement, just because, and – thank God – he decided at the last minute not to take anybody else with him.

    That’s what I’m going to believe until I see the DNA evidence…

     
  • At Wed Oct 05, 08:24:00 PM PDT, Blogger John Bernat said…

    Well, maybe he did not have second thoughts after all...

    Seen this posting?

    http://acepilots.com/mt/2005/10/05/what-if-they-held-a-suicide-bombing-and-no-one-covered-it-ii/#more-1900

    It says that Hinrichs was observed trying to get into the stadium and then left when he was asked to turn his backpack over for a search.

    It now looks like my “he had second thoughts” theory is weakening, if in fact Hinrichs was confronted about his backpack and left the stadium gate area before it was searched…and mayve he sat on the bench to transfer the bomb and it detonated.

    I still want to believe the best of people. However…hopefully it won’t be long before some authoritative report comes in.

    (I also don’t think it’s a “media whitewash,” as alleged here. The media are not typically that smart or well-organized…)

     

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